Ep. 19 – Mythbusting Boca Raton

Matthew Maschler:
Welcome to the Real Estate Finder podcast. I’m Matthew Maschler, the real estate finder, a real estate broker in the great state of Florida. And with me is my co-host,
Staci Garcia:
Stacy Garcia, also a real estate finder. How
Matthew Maschler:
Are you this week, Stacy?
Staci Garcia:
I’m great.
Matthew Maschler:
I am also great. We had a very large sale, so on our Monday morning sales call, I was singled out as having the biggest sale of last week, $2.6 million, and in the Oaks of Boca Raton. So that was good. And yeah, we’re doing great. We start at the office, we start every Monday morning with our sales call, just a 10 minute call at eight 50 in the morning just to transition from the weekend. No, realtors generally work seven days a week, but it’s just a good way to tune in if you had an office job. Everybody gets together Monday morning, talks around the water cooler, so in the pandemic and the Zoom era, we were able to replicate that on Zoom. So that’s our eight 50 Monday morning meeting. And it was nice to get the recognition over a thousand agents in the company.
Staci Garcia:
Congratulations. That’s
Matthew Maschler:
Awesome. Thank you so much. How’s your customer doing? You had the one that was successful at the foreclosure sales and then one doing that rehab down on power Line.
Staci Garcia:
Yep. I have a bunch of things going. That’s the thing about this job. It’s a bunch of wheels turning and you have to remember what’s going on with everybody.
Matthew Maschler:
With everyone. I was actually talking about the one that you sold on Power Line and just certain upgrades that happened recently in the neighborhood. This is the Estancia communities. There’s three communities, Estancia Estancia South and Estancia West. And then in the shopping center in front of Boca Grove, there’s a relatively new Jewish synagogue, and I think they finally approved or built a gate in the public park. That way the people from all the different estancias, if they want to walk on a Saturday or on a holiday, if they want to walk to Temple, they’re able to walk through so the gates finally open. So that’s big news in the Stacia communities. And I think,
Staci Garcia:
Yeah, that will definitely raise the values. And I was just talking to my client yesterday about her potential sale price
Matthew Maschler:
Of that house, and I liked that house. I showed it to a few people. They weren’t interested in it, and I knew your client would like it, but I thought they paid a fair market value. They didn’t get a deal on it, but I thought it had a lot of room for appreciation based on where it was and the population growth. And I don’t know how many months it’s been, but
Staci Garcia:
I think it was September.
Matthew Maschler:
September and there’s been some growth. It’s so weird that it said it’s 15, it’s happened so quickly,
Staci Garcia:
Percent, it happens so percent every month. I’m not sure if that’s true, but I will say something,
Matthew Maschler:
15% values go up 50% a
Staci Garcia:
Month. But I will say
Matthew Maschler:
That it’s 180% a year.
Staci Garcia:
I know, I’m not sure how that works, but you know what? Maybe it is that way because that’s how it worked with the first house. But in this case, I did see it’s a renovation, so I did see it about a month ago, and a lot can change in one month. My client is quick, she’s almost done. So she just said to me, what are we talking about for selling it? And I need a place to move to. She just moved in, but
Matthew Maschler:
I thought this was going to be a three year play. I didn’t anticipate she’s very fast. No, no. Not that the renovation would take three years, but just the house, it needed renovation that was factored into the price. That was still fire market value, but by the time they renovate and by the time property values increased, I really believed that this was a house that you could buy today that would go up in value, but not in six months, but the 18% a month or 15% a month. That can’t be true. And that’s something that we want to talk about today. Myths about Florida, things that people say that can’t possibly be true.
Staci Garcia:
So there’s a lot of talk about prices, but I want to hold off on prices for a minute because everybody is talking about prices. I want to talk about what I read about people moving to Florida and their concerns are, or they ask people in Florida or in Boca specifically. One of them is we want to move into an area with really good schools. So I’ll just put that out there, that everywhere in Boca has really good schools. So this isn’t like an area where you move to one part of town and you have horrible schools and you move to another and you have great schools.
Matthew Maschler:
It’s one of the reasons why people choose Boca. Palm Beach County is a big county. South Florida is a big region. One of the reasons people choose Boca is because of the schools. Traditionally, Boca and Parkland have very good schools, all a-rated. And also traditionally in Boca, Boca High School was always the highest rated, followed closely by Spanish River. But what I would like to tell people is there’s four high schools in Boca Raton and they’re all very, very good. You wouldn’t choose where to live based on which high school. And if you wanted to live near the beach walking distance, the beach, you’re going to beach high, Boca High. And that’s a good school. But if you’re trying to decide between a house, one house is owned for Spanish River and one house is zone for Olympic Heights. They’re both excellent schools.
Staci Garcia:
There’s also other programs that you can introduce your kids to. And then it doesn’t matter where you live, it’s a magnet sort of program.
Matthew Maschler:
There’s magnet schools and charter schools and other places.
Staci Garcia:
Even if you’re zoned for one, you could go to another.
Matthew Maschler:
Right. But in Boca, there’s four high schools, Boca High, Spanish River, Olympic Heights, and West Boca, and they’re all excellent schools. And personally, I don’t think you should let that influence your decision today in 2021, and maybe it used to be true, but in today’s days, all four,
Staci Garcia:
2022,
Matthew Maschler:
2022. But today, all four Boca High schools are great. And then you have other choices of the magnet schools, the charter schools, and the private schools.
Staci Garcia:
And also now what happened is the city of Boca decided to renovate the elementary schools, which were going back 40 years. Verde Verde was 30 when my kids went there. I think Verde’s probably 40 now. So they raised Verde, completely got demolished it, put up a temporary school, and then rebuilt Verde. And now Verde is two, you know what I mean? The new Verdes too. And it also is from kindergarten through eighth grade. So that takes care of a middle school, takes the pressure off of Omni. And then they did the same thing with East Boca, and they did in Boca Square, Addison Meisner. So they, they get rid of the school and they made it a K through eight. And now everybody in East Boca is getting a brand new school and just opened this year. So all the values in the property in Boca Square go up. All the values in Central Boca go up. And the West Boca schools were already amazing to begin with. They’re starting to age, but they’re not in the city, but they’re west of the city of Bo Raton. But also they’re going to do it with the next school
Matthew Maschler:
City. But the city doesn’t run the schools. It’s the county that runs the
Staci Garcia:
Schools. But we are on the map. So we’re on the map to be renovated. They were aging out. So I think JC Mitchell or they got rid of book at elementary, I believe. I know that there’s where we just sold a house for one of my clients. One side of the street is JC Mitchell, I believe, and the other side is Addison Meisner. So I did have people come to my open houses that ask me which school it was, and I want them to be less concerned because you know what? You can still test to get your child into the brand new school. Even though I tested to get my kids into Del Prado, Del Prado is in an amazing neighborhood and everyone wanted to go there. It’s a really old school. It might be the oldest or older than Verde. It has not been touched and it’s really, really old looking, but the education there is stellar. And it was a hundred percent gifted all of the time.
Matthew Maschler:
So if we’re talking about Florida myths, when I was growing up and people were moving to Florida, people said, oh, if you move to Florida, you have to do private school. And that’s always what I heard. And when I moved to Florida myself in 2005, 2006, we came with the intention of going to private school because that was something that I’d always heard. And I think that’s a Florida myth. I think there’s choice. I think that the public school option is a great option and it just really depends on the person. I don’t think I would’ve done private school had I stayed in New York or New Jersey. But as part of my move, we decided to do private school and I don’t regret it. I’m very happy with them today. Both my kids went preschool at Benet Israel, pre-K through eight at Pinecrest. And then my son is at Pinecrest now. He’s a junior playing football now. He’s on the wrestling team. Awesome. Yeah, my daughter didn’t want to go to Fort Lauderdale for Pinecrest, so she went to Grandview for two years, and now she’s at Donna Klein and she’s an avid scuba diver, and it’s the right spot for both kids. But no, I was very impressed with the public school options and a lot of people we know are choosing public school in Boca and in Delray. That’s a conversation I have with a lot of people about schooling.
Staci Garcia:
So the first, that one, I want to obliterate that myth because the first question is, I want my kids to go to an amazing school, or especially when people are coming from Miami-Dade. I think it really matters there. Some people live in a certain place because the schools are great, but they won’t live in another place because the schools are bad here. We don’t have that issue. And I want them to know, even if they’re in an older area or in East Boca, the schools are getting redone and they can test for a choice at
Matthew Maschler:
School, like the Ad Hendersons and the Don Estrogens of the world. So those are magnet schools, and we could advise more about that. If you are interested in making a move to our area of the world, we’re happy to advise about schooling and making some other decisions. What are some other Florida myths? We’ve heard
Staci Garcia:
The mosquitoes are absolutely awful. You can’t go outside.
Matthew Maschler:
Some people say that they’re unbearable, and that’s the presentation that it’s intolerable. And I’m like, I don’t really notice them, but if they’re intolerable, I think people would,
Staci Garcia:
I’ve had problems with mosquitoes in other places, or I guess I’ve noticed mosquitoes and certain times of the year, of course, certain
Matthew Maschler:
Times of the year
Staci Garcia:
Or if it’s going to rain or if it just rained,
Matthew Maschler:
If it just rained. I used to keep a can of off insect repellent by the door that I ran out to go to the pool. It’s been sitting there for three years now. I don’t think I’ve touched it
Staci Garcia:
In the same way, but it’s still there. And I don’t, I’m chemically sensitive. I don’t use off or anything like that, but I do carry after bite in my purse, in my pocketbook. And my kids know my pocketbook is like the cvs. It’s the CVS pocketbook. I have everything. So if they do get bit by a mosquito, wherever, they’ll ask me for after bite. I don’t even keep it in the kitchen or in the drawer. I keep it with me all the time.
Matthew Maschler:
So some of the myths are that just in general, there’s mosquitoes. And then some people talk about, as you go west, there’s mosquitoes, truth be told, where you’re going to get a lot of bugs, mosquitoes, things of that nature is if you tend to eat outside a lot, and if you tend to eat, leave your garbage out. If you leave bread out, if you leave food out, don’t
Staci Garcia:
Wherever water sits.
Matthew Maschler:
But if you leave food out, you’re going to get bugs. So if you clean up after yourself, you’re not going to get bugs.
Staci Garcia:
And you know what I have to say? They’re brand new screens that come down. They’re remote controlled. Most of the newer houses are nice. They come down remote control screen right over your back patio. You don’t need a screen, an enclosure. And that brings me to my next myth, because during an open house, I had so many people come in. So I was selling a four, two in East Boca with a screened in enclosure over the pool and the table and the lounge chairs, and everyone that came in, the first thing they said was, does this part of the house come? Does this screen come with the house? So it’s attached to the house. Yes, it comes with the house. And the first thing everyone wanted to do that was moving down is to get rid of it because it’s not a thing anywhere else.
The screened in Enclosure is actually an up sale. It’s something that you add on. It’s a good thing. Yeah, it’s a great thing. But I mean, I don’t have one and I don’t want one. It’s a preference. But people from up north don’t have them. It’s not even really an option. And here we have them, because originally probably mosquitoes, you can just sit outside and not even worry about ’em unless you have a hole in your screen, a big hole in your screened in patio. But here, I’ve noticed that a lot of people that are coming down now, or people that are moving on, checking out Boca, everything that’s screened in, they don’t want, they’re like, why is the screen? Can I get rid of that? It’s a cage around the pool, and it’s not a cage around the pool. It’s actually freeing you from bugs and anything else because it will keep the iguanas out. It’ll keep the lizards out and wildlife and all of that ducks. Sometimes you find a whole family of ducks in your pool, and that’s not the most pleasant thing. You’ve got to clean it up.
Matthew Maschler:
What would happen if my daughter found ducks in the pool?
Staci Garcia:
She’d take ’em inside. I had a duck.
Matthew Maschler:
I was looking for a duck noise. That was the best I
Staci Garcia:
Had. I had a duck, husband and wife, I’m guessing it could have been a duck. Wife and wife or husband and husband. They were on my first step and they were so adorable, and they were really lounging at my pool. And the first day that they were there, I was like, I’m so glad they’re enjoying my pool. They’re so adorable. And then I realized what they left was basically a toilet. So the second day, I didn’t want to clean it up, and I didn’t want to go in the pool either. So that was the end of thinking The ducks are cute in my pool. That was the one time deal. But people did have a screen. It’s not a bad thing. You either like it or you don’t. It’s a personal preference. But remember, and I told everybody this, it came to my open house, which was more than one day. Try the screen first before you tell someone to get the screen off your house, because once the screen’s gone and you have to put up another one, it’s a pricey. It’s a pricey move.
Matthew Maschler:
The screens are more expensive than you’d think. I have a very, very small screen right outside my master bedroom, and I really like it. I don’t like dirt, so it allows me to keep the door open and get some fresh air. So cold in Boca
Staci Garcia:
For that one day a year. It’s
Matthew Maschler:
52 degrees.
Staci Garcia:
It’s awesome. I love it. I have a screened in back door, but it’s not a door, it’s just a screen. It slides from one side of the door to the other and it’s magnet and it just sticks to the wall. And a lot of people don’t see it, and they walk right into it. So a lot of houses here don’t have screen doors up north. You know how it is. You walk up to the door, there’s the screen door, and then the regular door here. We don’t really have screen doors.
Matthew Maschler:
It is funny, I noticed that when we first moved down that there’s no screen doors, but you have some of these houses with big elaborate doors. It would look terrible to have a screen.
Staci Garcia:
I did sell a house last in December that had a screen door and I loved it. And in the back of its townhouse and in the back of the townhouse, it had sliding glass doors. And on that one chilly day in December, I opened the front door, left, the screen door closed, and I opened the backs, sliders, and it had a screened in back patio, and it was awesome. I had the best crosswind going. People were walking in, everything was blowing around, but because it was windy, but I don’t have that luxury at my house. I don’t have a screen door in the front. I have one in the back and none of my windows open. So if you have the option for the pool screen, leave it. And if you don’t like it, then you can remove it, of course. But don’t just, I mean, the buyer automatically was bringing in someone to remove the pool cage she called it.
So that’s one thing, try it out before you get rid of it. And also there are some people that would buy them already done and just pick it up and move it to their house. That happened in my neighborhood during a hurricane. One of ’em ended in the street and then it ended up on another house. But the bug situation is there are companies here that spray and they put sprayers in your hedge, and you can turn on the spray anytime you want, or you can have it turn on whenever you turn your sprinklers on or whenever you’re sitting outside or when you’re not sitting outside. And it would kill whatever is about to grow in the hedge. My mom used to say that MDs hold a lot of water. Mosquitoes grow in places where water is standing. So some plants you might want to not have because they’re going to have mosquitoes withstanding water, and then other animals, not mosquitoes. Well, if you’re on the beach, there’s no cmms. They’re like
Matthew Maschler:
Mosquitoes. So what other Florida myths do we have that Bo is filled with old retirees, old people. Old
Staci Garcia:
People. So we already know that we are the retirement capital of the country. And that there are 85-year-old, there’s Betty White driving in front of you, and they are going maybe a little bit slower than the rest of the traffic, which is sometimes a problem. But they’re not everybody, and they don’t always go out, and they’re not all going to the four 30 early bird. Certainly not with Covid.
Matthew Maschler:
Do you know what the median age is in Boca Raton?
Staci Garcia:
No, but I can guess maybe
Matthew Maschler:
60 48 and a half.
Staci Garcia:
Wow. I’m really off.
Matthew Maschler:
Yeah. And I’m 49, so I’m right there. Yeah, males, 47.8, females, 49.2. I heard that statistic on another agent’s podcast. So I was listening to other real estate podcasts and I verified it myself. Didn’t want to just repeat something I heard. And I was surprised by that. I know when I moved to Woodfield, Woodfield bragged that that was the average age in Woodfield 49.
Staci Garcia:
You think it’s still that
Matthew Maschler:
In Woodfield? Yeah, I think it got older, and then I think in the last two years it got younger. Yeah, because it’s been a lot of turnover. So I don’t know. But it’s interesting because there’s three colleges in Bo Raton, and then you have all the people that work for the older people. So you have a tremendous working. So there’s myths that it’s very old. There’s myths that it’s wealthy, there’s myths that it’s not wealthy, the people on fixed income. And there’s a little bit of everything because Century Village you have people on fixed incomes, but then also there’s people in Century Village that are doing very well. There’s a little bit of everything, but there’s three colleges, Lynn Palm Beach State, Florida Atlantic University, which is division one and has a great football team. And then everything that’s associated with colleges and with a hospital and with a town that retirees and 55 and overs is really not what’s driving Boca Raton anymore.
And that’s another big myth that’s busted because it’s funny, when I was looking and trying to decide to move down here in 2005, I came down with my wife and she did not want to move to Florida. Both of her grandmothers lived here. They dealt with the early bird dinners and having to wear a hair cover to go into the pool. Meanwhile, I’d go out to eat with my father, and after dinner he would drive us home and then he’d go out because he’d wanted to go see his friends at the cigar bar or whatnot. So he was out later than I was. And Boca Ratan had recently cracked down on some bars and restaurants that were open until four in the morning. They rolled them back to two in the morning. And who would think Poker Ratone would have a problem with bars being opened until four in the morning if this was the land of early birds?
I never see early birds being offered. I mean, maybe some of the delis West might offer an early bird, but I rarely even run into that contingent of people. And I have friends that live in Century Village and some of my real estate friends that run the Century Village office, but I rarely run into that. I think I saw on the news someone, they were interviewing a younger person that was living in a 55 and over. And that happens every couple of years. Someone’s going to write an article or a book or a magazine, they’ll rent or live in a place that’s 55 and over and see what it’s like. And it was a cute article on tv, not article, but she was helping people with their phones and whatnot. But 55 is not that old, I guess. I know
Staci Garcia:
I’m going to be 50, so I’m
Matthew Maschler:
Going to be 50 in November.
Staci Garcia:
And the funny thing is I still have my mom’s place in Kings Point, which is in Delray. And I did consider, well, actually, I was almost certain that my plan would be once the kids left for college, I would be able to leave for the summers and then come back in the winter and live at my mom’s place, which is just a one bedroom in Kings Point. But the more I’m in Kings Point, the less I really want to do that. Oh,
Matthew Maschler:
Really? Yeah.
Staci Garcia:
I’m thinking I might not want to do this now. The amenities are awesome, and they put a lot of money into it and everything, but it’s not the amenities. It’s more of I just got a puppy. You can’t have pets. The rules. I know that I have three sons that I only would have one parking space, you know what I mean? They would have, is it
Matthew Maschler:
Guest parking?
Staci Garcia:
There is guest parking, but we have four cars. And then let’s say they want to bring their friends. I mean, it’s just an impossibility. And also at this rate, COVID destroyed my college bound children, so they might not be going away. And my son has asked me, can you sell that place and buy a place next FAU so I can go to FAU?
Matthew Maschler:
Oh, that
Staci Garcia:
Makes sense. And be your tenant and will you clean it up and be there. So basically when you move there,
Matthew Maschler:
You’re not that far from FAU as it’s No,
Staci Garcia:
I know it’s true. He could ride his bike there, but that’s very true. So yeah, I guess another myth would be that because it’s a college town and there’s a college right in the middle of Po Ratone that everybody goes and the world stops and everybody goes to FAU for football games and stuff. And it should be that way, but it’s
Matthew Maschler:
Not. It really should be. I’ve been a season ticket holder for FAU football since the beginning in 2012. The new stadium coach Nel Berger, he twisted my arm and he sold me my season tickets. And it’s fun. It’s happening. It’s so fun. I mean, look, I went to University of Maryland. It’s not the same thing, but I can leave my house and be in my seat in 15 minutes. That’s true. Because I have valet parking at FAU Stadium. Not everyone gets valet parking at FAU Stadium, but I have valet parking at FAU Stadium. But even
Staci Garcia:
Still though, I mean I went to University of Maryland also, but I didn’t have a car. And I could be in the stadium in 10. My dorm was very close to it.
Matthew Maschler:
No, no. But I’m saying as an adult with kids, I could leave my house.
Staci Garcia:
I asked my kids, I said, for the FAU games, they started to be interested in college games. Go and early in tailgate. And they were like, yeah, okay. The thing is, they do it the older people way, they go to Publix and get pub subs and stuff
Matthew Maschler:
Like that instead of, it doesn’t have the same. A friend of mine is at Duke and tickets for the Duke North Carolina basketball game go on sale first week in March. So they’re camping out. Wow. Apparently it’s a tradition. It’s six weeks. They live in tents in front of the ticket off. That’s pretty crazy. Must be a good game mean. And the thing is, his family has season tickets, but he wants to sit in the student section.
Staci Garcia:
Oh,
Matthew Maschler:
So that’s the fanatics. Even University of Miami, they have the great football team, but they don’t play on campus. They play at Dolphin Stadium. And that’s one of the reasons Coach Schnellenberger thought it was so important to build a stadium for FAU to have the stadium as part of the student life. And Miami doesn’t, university of Miami doesn’t have that game day feeling that goes over the whole campus of that rah rah feeling. And FAU should have that. It doesn’t, but
Staci Garcia:
It should. And it,
Matthew Maschler:
There are a lot of local companies and people that do support and go to the games and barbecue. It’s just not a lot. It’s not the same as, yeah,
Staci Garcia:
When people come here, one of my first things that I say, and it sounds crazy, is you should check out FAU. Not even, we don’t even have kids or our kids are in elementary school. I’m like, no, no. Check out FAU just to see what’s going on. You could go
Matthew Maschler:
To movie theater concerts.
Staci Garcia:
Yeah, there’s all kinds of stuff
Matthew Maschler:
Going on. I never stepped foot. I’ve been going to, coming to Boca on vacation or with my dad my whole life. And I lived here. I moved here in oh 5, 0 6, and I never went to FAU until I got those football tickets in 2012. I had no idea what was there. And it’s great to have, it’s not the same. It’s division one, but I kind of think of it as minor league. It’s like a minor league baseball game. It’s not the same. I mean, it’s certainly not Tennessee or Michigan. Tennessee on game day, the whole state comes out. It’s not the same, but it’s 15 minutes door to door. And for that you can’t beat. And it’s a good game. Devon Singletary on the Buffalo Bills, he played for FAU. His nickname was Motor Motor Singletary, because he was so fast. And David, my son and I, were big fans of Devin Singletary, and I asked our ticket rep, I said, listen, it was his senior year.
And I said, listen, before this guy graduates, I really need a picture. So I have a picture with David and Devin Singletary and this past Sunday Bucks Bills. No, it wasn’t Bucks. Bills who? The Bills play. The bills lost. Bucks lost to the Chiefs. Who? The Bills play. Bills maybe the Rams. Yeah. I’m a flat line. I don’t remember who the Bills played, but Devon Singletary got the first touchdown. That’s awesome. Devon Singletary had a great game. And the only reason I don’t play Devon Singletary in my fantasy team more often is because Buffalo splits the running backs. They have Devin Single Terry, they have one other running back. So they split the running the workload between these two guys so they don’t get enough points as other running backs.
But Devin, single Terry, FAU owls, and he made that little, the signal in my picture with David, that’s, so I was texting the picture to a bunch of my friends that I know that were Buffalo fans, and there’s other players that go on from FAU into the NFL. Greg Joseph, he’s a kicker. He’s from Boca, went to Donna Klein. His mother is the principal of Donna Klein, I believe, and I forget what team he’s on now. It could even be Miami Dolphins, but he’s a kicker. It’s funny, my kids had a physics teacher and his son is a punter in the NFL. Oh, that’s what Remming does. Punter, yeah. And then my daughter is in Donna Klein now, and she has Ms. Joseph and her son is a kicker in the NFL. I could have it the other way around. No, I don’t think I do. So I was like, oh, that’s great.
David’s physics teachers in the NFL and Lindsay’s Hebrew teacher son is also in the NFL. Lindsay looks at me, got all mad. She goes, I have Mr. Ardi for physics too. That’s So Pilate didn’t go to FAU, but Joseph did. And I remember he came back. There was a homecoming game I went to that he came back for, and it’s really cool. So there’s other FAU players, I don’t know. I’m not a huge football fan. My son is. So we’ve been going every Dolphins game for the last five years, I think. And he knows all the FAU players in the NFL, and we follow them. It’s amazing that we could follow them from
Staci Garcia:
Boca. And the stadium is very accessible. Stadium is great. It’s very accessible to the players. You’re very close and you can even get a cabana on the field. On the field. Yeah. Yeah, it’s amazing. I mean, I really love being there.
Matthew Maschler:
My son’s high school football team played in the stadium. We played against the Coral Springs, and David said it was the greatest sports day of his life. Of course, he got to go in the player section and go to the locker room and come out in the field. Very cool. Yeah, he was very happy with that. So it’s an incredible myth to be here. We both raised our children here in Boca and my kids since sewer babies, and they’re 17. And while they did have their grandparents here, they didn’t have to go to Florida to visit their grandparents. And both grandparents were very happy. My father and my wife’s late father, very happy in South Florida. So it does. So we’re saying that it’s great for young people, people of all ages. And yes, if you are a older senior citizen, there’s no place better than either the country club or drive
Staci Garcia:
Over. I had just shown a place near Town Center, and the woman had lived there since the house was built, which is 30 years. And she was moving to an assisted living facility. And we have our own department, if you will, in our company where it’s downsizing into an assisted living, and we facilitate the move and help you out. But in this case, her family was bringing her up to Pennsylvania, and I felt a little bit bad for her because they were going to bring her to a cold place. And she was already with the heat on. She had the heat on at her place, and it was probably 75 outside. But what I was going to say is that there’s so much to do down here that it’s almost, people look forward to retiring in a way, because there’s transportation and there’s events and there’s movies and there’s shows and there’s at the pool, they have aerobics and all of that stuff.
So it’s like going to summer camp if you by yourself or resort and everyone’s your age. So I mean, you can’t beat that. That’s why I am happy for the person who lives in my mom’s place. He has a lot of friends. He doesn’t need to drive. There’s a tram and it pulls over right in front of the door. He doesn’t need to walk or anywhere, anything like that. And there’s tons of stuff at the club. And he is always busy and more busy than I am at a younger age. But another myth is that it’s always raining out west,
Matthew Maschler:
Always raining. Oh, out west, out west. East is perfect. West it’s raining.
Staci Garcia:
Well, some people think that in the east it’s not ever raining, and it always rains when you hit a certain point and land. Really? Yeah, because the air gets cooler and the moisture condenses and it starts to rain. So if you look at the map, the rain’s coming from the west, but I don’t really think the weather, and you spoke of this is different except that maybe it’s a little bit more windy because you have the ocean and the wind on the beach. And so that’s another thing is if you live on the beach, a lot of people that live on the beach don’t really notice the bugs if there are them, because it’s windy and you’re on the beach. So there’s a lot. And if it rain does pass, it passes right over you pretty quickly.
Matthew Maschler:
So I want to take a few moments and talk about my new listing.
Staci Garcia:
Oh, nice. Go ahead.
Matthew Maschler:
It’s a three bedroom condo in Boca Point Country Club. It’s 2000 square feet. Boca Point is a unique country club because it’s not mandatory. So you do not have to join the club. I recommend it. It’s a great club. We get golf course and all the social activities, but you don’t have to join. It’s $520,000. It’s a three bedroom, two bath, beautiful lake in golf views, and it’s on the first floor. So easy living with no steps. So that’s good. So if you’re looking for a three bedroom condo, $520,000, it’s expensive, but it’s 2022. And what do you expect?
Staci Garcia:
Well, and Boca Point is a huge community. You don’t realize how big it is. It’s across the streets and there’s various gates. This was, and it’s right in the center of everything. So pretty much I feel like Boca was built around Boca Point, Boca West, Boca Del Mar, and then Boca just spread out.
Matthew Maschler:
I think Boca Point and Boca West were built at the same time with the same developers.
Staci Garcia:
And they’re very similar. A lot of them have similar features. Boca Point has an amazing social network, basically. So a lot of the people that live in Boca Point are friends with people in Boca Point. And it’s a good, I don’t know what the word is, but it’s good comradery.
Matthew Maschler:
A people seem very friendly and whenever do showings there,
Staci Garcia:
Yeah, there’s no one I know that’s ever lived in Boca Point has been unhappy, let’s put it that way. And also because they might pay their HOA and their master, HOA if they have one, but also they don’t have to pay them club membership to join and to live behind the gate, if you will. So they’re living the luxury lifestyle on the golf course or on a lake or both. And they are not paying $75,000 to walk through the gate. So that’s a great price point. And Boca Point is right in the middle of everything. So hypothetically, you could walk to dinner or just the supermarket or anywhere else.
Matthew Maschler:
And it’s a great location. It’s not that far west. So it’s convenient to come to the podcast studio from Boca Point.
Staci Garcia:
Some people say that if you live out west, you’re not living near anything because Meisner Park is downtown, the beach is downtown, everything’s east. What are you going to do out west? So only families live there. And that’s actually not the case anymore. Not true. So now the Uptown’s been built, which is on Glaze Road, just east of 4 41 could, I think there’s like seven or eight restaurants in there. It’s like a mini Meisner park. And you could go there or any of the places out west to eat, or you could head east. But a lot of people used to say, if you live out west, you’ll never head east. And that’s not true at all. And the way people
Matthew Maschler:
Do I’d lazy.
Staci Garcia:
Well, the way people do time up north is, okay, so Matthew and I both lived in College Park, Maryland, and if someone said to you, I’ll meet you at Rockville, at Chili’s, you’d be like, whoa. Seriously, that’s really far away. I don’t know if I could do that. That’s probably maybe 10 miles at the most, but it’s an hour and or two to drive to because you have to get on the beltway and get off. So here you’re going one direction east to the beach, west to the houses, the larger houses and the new communities out west. And we don’t count it by time. We count it by miles because there’s no traffic. I mean, there’s traffic, but it doesn’t compare to any other state, any other place. So sometimes I think, oh boy, I have to go to 4 41 to pick up my son at school, but it’s really only 10 miles. And I could be there in five minutes, but when I think about him, I have to go all the way over there. So from one end of our city to the other. I mean, you seriously could bike it, right? And you wouldn’t even think about it. You just think about it because Boca is a square. And when someone’s in South Boca, they’re like, oh, I don’t really like North Boca. When someone’s in West Boca, they’re like, I don’t really like East Boca.
Matthew Maschler:
It’s amazing what these geographic labels they put on people. There’s no such place as West Boka except for West Boka High School.
Staci Garcia:
Well, west Boka, and it used to go to the end is not even as far west as Coral Springs in Broward and Coral Springs, I guess, or Broward asked if they could continue university, and they said, no, we don’t want anyone cutting through.
Matthew Maschler:
So
Staci Garcia:
Boca ended at the shore at Soteria, which is nice. It’s a dead end over there. There’s nowhere else to go. And another amazing feature
Matthew Maschler:
Is, but people from Broward County, the stuff that they built in Parkland that we consider West Boca people in Broward County, they don’t consider it west. They consider it north.
Staci Garcia:
Right. And they actually can’t cut into Boca, which would be West Boca, but the park, south County Regional Park in West Boca
Matthew Maschler:
Great
Staci Garcia:
Park is amazing. It’s humongous. And there’s a community. And the houses there are about $4 million. But you’re right in the middle of a humongous park. So the people that are into riding bicycles, I take my dog there, there’s a dog park, an amphitheater, a golf course. You’re on a lake, you could fish. There’s a million different things. There’s a water park and all kinds of things to do. But imagine your community is in there. So there’s biking clubs, bicycle clubs. I see them when I take my dog to the park at 7:00 AM
Matthew Maschler:
Like gangs?
Staci Garcia:
No, they’re bicycles. Bicycle, but they’re, they’re all riding. Really biking. I like that they have the whole park to ride in it’s miles and miles and miles, because I feel like they’re safer than if they were on the road with Sylvia. But yeah, they’re riding in the morning and they’re out west and there’s no car. I mean, there’s cars in there, but they’re very few. So it’s a great place to go rollerblading or really just to do anything.
Matthew Maschler:
The dog park, canine Cove.
Staci Garcia:
Yeah, it’s amazing. I mean, I love it. There’s a closer dog park to me in Meisner Park.
Matthew Maschler:
Well, that’s the city park.
Staci Garcia:
And I don’t go to that one because you have to pay for a sticker for your car.
Matthew Maschler:
I don’t think there’s a cost for the sticker.
Staci Garcia:
There is. Yep, there is. Because once
Matthew Maschler:
I had, I’ll bet your dollar
Staci Garcia:
On. I had Liz pick me up and take us to the park so that I would not have to get a sticker or get a ticket because I was drive
Matthew Maschler:
Myself. You have to have the sticker, but you need the sticker. So you have to show your city id.
Staci Garcia:
But you also need the sticker to go to the beaches and pay for that,
Matthew Maschler:
That you have to pay for.
Staci Garcia:
Oh, well, I’ll find out about the dog park. I’ll ask. I don’t like that dog park though, as much. It’s the West Boca one. It’s
Matthew Maschler:
So much closer.
Staci Garcia:
And all the ones, all the dog parks, separate dogs by size, which is good. But I think it’s not the dogs, it’s the people. And even though I live in Central Boca, I care about the people. I want them to not just chitchat and ignore their dogs. I want them to pay attention. And if something’s going on,
Matthew Maschler:
Oh, I don’t pay attention to my dog. You don’t? I go to Dog Park. I just let him run. Nah,
Staci Garcia:
I don’t mind letting him run. That’s so cool. But let’s say my dog was humping every other dog, and I’m apologizing some people. I try to pull the dogs off each other. One dog was humping my dog, and I’m like, where’s the dude that goes into this? Sometimes
Matthew Maschler:
You see a whole chain gang going on, but the West Country Club has a dog park.
Staci Garcia:
Oh, really?
Matthew Maschler:
Yeah, it’s very nice. It separates small and big small’s weird. It’s all small little white dogs. But there’s some big dogs and they had to move it. It was where they built a koya. The dog park was there. But now once they sold that land and they moved the dog park to somewhere else, but it’s a very nice dog park. And it’s only obviously for Boca West.
Staci Garcia:
That’s pretty
Matthew Maschler:
Cool. Residents.
Staci Garcia:
The Boca West dogs are like, we don’t want outside dogs that are dogs.
Matthew Maschler:
That’s a very country club dog.
Staci Garcia:
Yeah. I’ll tell you something. The dog park is a necessity for working from home. If my dog doesn’t go to the dog park or to daycare is driving me nuts all day long, destroying my house, basically. So that’s another thing. You can get a bigger house out west for the same amount. Not
Matthew Maschler:
Anymore. You
Staci Garcia:
Get a smaller house in the east. Not
Matthew Maschler:
Anymore. Sold out.
Staci Garcia:
Well, it’s sold out. Yeah, we are sold
Matthew Maschler:
Out. I just read GL Homes, one of the builders that bought the old city golf course on Glades Road past the turnpike. The house prices will start at 1.3 million.
Staci Garcia:
I read that yesterday.
Matthew Maschler:
560 houses starting at 1.3 million per house. They paid 68 million for the land.
Staci Garcia:
And you’re right next to the turnpike.
Matthew Maschler:
Yeah. So if it’s 1.3 million starting by the time people put in and put their extras and stuff like that, you figure it’s going to be one five to 3 million per house. So call 2 million a house, five hundred twenty five hundred, five twenty houses. That’s a lot. They’re going to gross over a billion dollars.
Staci Garcia:
And that’s a lot of people for that area.
Matthew Maschler:
Well, there’s more houses coming. That’s true. Toll Brothers recently bought the Thomas Farm on Clint Warren and 4 41
Staci Garcia:
On the west side.
Matthew Maschler:
On the west side. So they’re going to put in a lot of houses there. So they’re coming.
Staci Garcia:
Yeah. And I imagine that they’re going to start with another school or something at schools out west if that many houses are coming. And somebody in that article, they said they wanted to open a new exit ramp at Palmetto.
Matthew Maschler:
They’ve been talking that a long time. Yeah,
Staci Garcia:
I don’t know. I don’t want it to be like luck. I really don’t like that. They have the HIV lane thing going on here now
Matthew Maschler:
On 95. Yeah.
Staci Garcia:
Yeah. It’s too many. I don’t really,
Matthew Maschler:
It’s not an HOV lane. Well,
Staci Garcia:
Whatever.
Matthew Maschler:
It’s a toll lane.
Staci Garcia:
Oh,
Matthew Maschler:
I know. HOV is high occupancy vehicle. They change it. It doesn’t work down here. It works if people going to the same place, factory workers going to the same shift. But if two people are going to Miami and they work in different offices and they want to leave at different times, they’re not carpooling. I mean, it’s car culture in Florida, they’re not carpooling. So they made a toll lane. They’re turning the left lane on 95 into a toll lane. And that just seems Totally,
Staci Garcia:
That would be the only reason that I would get, if you can drive in that lane with an electric vehicle for
Matthew Maschler:
Free, I think there’s a discount for electric vehicles.
Staci Garcia:
Okay. That’s the only reason I think we could do that change.
Matthew Maschler:
But it seems very classist. Right? Okay. If you pay more, you don’t have to wait in traffic.
Staci Garcia:
It’s always been that way in Miami, wasn’t it?
Matthew Maschler:
What tolls,
Staci Garcia:
If you want to take the faster, well, I guess if you want to take the express lane, it was the express lane. The
Matthew Maschler:
Diamond. Diamond lane. That was toll.
Staci Garcia:
Yes.
Matthew Maschler:
Right. Because HOV is different than a toll lane. Toll lane is just, it’s always been like the Turnback had a toll 95. So if you’re deciding between the turnpike and 95, you could pay more money to go on the turnpike. But putting the toll lane on 95 for a high speed lane, I dunno. That’s just saying, okay, rich people drive fast. Poor people, you wait in traffic. That’s what it says to me. I don’t know.
Staci Garcia:
Yeah. Well, I try to avoid, not that there are some people, I want to say that don’t drive on 95, and that makes me laugh, but I’m not making fun of them at
Matthew Maschler:
All. My daughter doesn’t drive five.
Staci Garcia:
Really? Yeah. I think that here, I barely drive on 95. I don’t really go anywhere, but I like to drive on 95. As a matter of fact, the last time I went to get my dog neutered and I was coming back, I almost passed my exit. I was enjoying driving because I don’t really get to drive anywhere. So everywhere I go, it’s very close to everywhere else. And that’s another thing, people are moving out of Boca. The people that are actually selling and moving, some of them are moving to Central Boca. Sorry, central Florida, central
Matthew Maschler:
Florida, Orlando. Yeah. They’re
Staci Garcia:
Moving north of,
Matthew Maschler:
Here’s action. There’s volume, there’s transactions all over the state. I’ve been talking to people that are moving to Orlando, to Tampa, to Naples, to Jacksonville area. It’s interesting, what’s important to people, whether it’s the beach or to be close to an airport or be close to a hospital or be close to an airport with international flights and checking roots. But if you’re coming down from, if you live in Georgia, if you’re deciding between the East coast or west coast of Florida, well are you closer to 95 or 75? Right? So if where you’re coming from, it’s easier to get to the West Coast. People are coming down that
Staci Garcia:
Way. And the difference here, a lot of people say, well, I don’t want to live on the west coast of Florida because it’s all older people. Which is funny because when I hear that, I’m like, really? Right?
Matthew Maschler:
That’s not
Staci Garcia:
True. But there are people that moved to Naples probably like, I want to say 15 to 20 years ago.
Matthew Maschler:
Then they’re older now,
Staci Garcia:
But they just don’t have the nightlife. But you go there, you eat there.
Matthew Maschler:
But what I don’t like about Naples is the international airport. It’s a small airport in Fort Myers, so you’re limited there. And sports teams, if you want to see football, hockey, baseball, or basketball, you, you’re not close to that. So it’s a little too far from Tampa, a little too far from Fort Lauderdale. And that’s one of my problems with a southwest Florida lifestyle. I’ve wanted to see, I’ve always needed to be near an arena where there’s concerts and whatnot. So tonight I’m seeing the heat and Friday night seeing Billy Joel, unless he cancels because of Omicron,
Staci Garcia:
I want to do this.
Matthew Maschler:
Houses. I’m not singing.
Staci Garcia:
No,
Matthew Maschler:
You may be right. I may be crazy. And that my friends is the real estate finder podcasts, shattering, shattering, myths about Florida. I’m Matthew Ashler, the real estate finder. Follow this podcast and follow us. And like us, we’re in the top 10% of all podcasts on Apple, over a thousand downloads a week. So please follow us, download our episodes, give us reviews on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, audible, iHeartRadio, wherever you get your podcasts, you can reach out to us on the realestate finder.com website or social media pages.
Staci Garcia:
Let us know. And if you’re looking for a house, contact us.
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