Ep. 18 – From Pod-A-Palooza at Biergarten, to Pickleball and Beyond!

Matthew Maschler:

Welcome to the Real Estate Finder podcast. I’m Matthew Maschler, the Real Estate Finder, a real estate broker in the state of Florida. And with me, Stacy

Staci Garcia:

Garcia, also a realestate finder.

Matthew Maschler:

And you can reach us@realestatefinder.com or the Real Estate Finder podcast on Facebook. Matthew Ashler on Twitter and Instagram. And we had a very exciting evening last night in Boca Raton. We did a podcast, Palooza eight different podcasts, all met at the Beer Garden restaurant in the Royal Palm Plaza on Federal Highway in Boca. And we each did a 20 minute show. This podcast wasn’t on the podcast Palooza. My other podcast, my Matthew Mania podcast was there was already a slot for a real estate podcast. Our friends over at Compass did their show live. And an interesting thing that they’d said, they said there was 5 billion in real estate values sold last year in Boca Raton. So with a Boca address, 5 billion worth of real estate bought and sold in the year 2021. It was really an incredible year in real estate, and everyone I speak to that has been doing this for 10, 20, 30, a hundred years, they all agree they’ve never seen anything like this before, which always surprises me.

I always expect someone, an old timer or someone who’s been in the business 30 years or more to remember something similar because we’ve had ups and downs. Florida is a boom and bust market always has been, always will be. And so we’ve seen this before. We’ve seen new construction developments where there were lines out and people camping out overnight to get a raffle ticket that would enable them to reserve a spot in that development. We’ve seen demand before. We’ve seen sellers markets before and we’ve seen buyer’s markets before, but something this extreme, something that gobbled up the available industry inventory so quickly. Really nobody remembers a time like this. I certainly don’t remember a time where real estate values went up and up and up on a daily or monthly basis. We could talk about the value of a piece of property that we showed in the summer and oh, they thought they were buying at the top.

And oh, it turns out that they got a great price. I actually just closed on a property in the oaks where I represented the seller. Our buyers represented them as buyers when they bought in the summer of 20, in about $1.6 million and summer of 20, we thought it was a high. Now we got a good deal on it. They definitely bought it right in the summer of 20 and things were slow, prices were up and inventory was down, but it wasn’t as fast in the summer of 20, a few months after the shutdown, we really saw November, December, I really think December of 20, even though we spent the summer scrambling, we spent the spring, march, April, may scrambling to find people that were running down here from New York, from New Jersey, from all parts because they needed to get out of New York because of the pandemic, and they were just taking whatever rentals that they could.

And we a, we had a mini season over the summer, but it was really the winter, November, December when people were still dealing with the pandemic. Now it’s getting colder. And you had situations where if you went on an airplane, you couldn’t go back to the office for two weeks or your kids couldn’t go to school for two weeks. So you couldn’t even go to Florida in the winter on a golf outing with your friends on the weekend because when you got back, your kids couldn’t go to school for two weeks. So that drove a lot of people down here in December and January, and I saw prices increase from December to January, December 20 to January of 21 and continue to go up and up and up all through January, February, March of 21. So by the summer of 21, that particular buyer decided to list their property, and we listed it for a million dollars more than they paid a year ago. And a lot of people, they look at the history and quite frankly, they don’t want to pay somebody a million dollars more than they just paid for the property a year ago. Truth be told, in real estate, much like any other market, it doesn’t matter what somebody paid for a property, what is the property worth today in the stock market? It’s the same thing. Peloton used to be Tesla, right? Well, Tesla’s at an all time high, but you

Staci Garcia:

Can buy a Tesla and then tomorrow it’s worth more,

Matthew Maschler:

Right? You buy a stock today, you don’t know what it’s worth tomorrow. And that people are buying Peloton stock at an all time low Tesla stocks at all time high. And again, you don’t, what is the property? What is the thing you want worth today? It doesn’t matter what it was worth yesterday or a week ago or a year ago. And if these people were the original homeowners in the Oaks and they own the house for 20 years and they were asking the exact same price, you’d be fine. That would be okay. But because they’re a recent homeowner, I mean, you understand the logic or the hurdles you have to go through in your brain, but the truth of the matter is it doesn’t matter what somebody bought something for anything for what is it worth today? And we just closed last week and it was on the market. It didn’t sell right away because people weren’t busting down the doors to buy a two and a half million dollars property, but it’s only two or three months, which in a normal market is a normal amount of times to sell. And our sellers made a million dollars in this market.

Staci Garcia:

I remember that. I showed a house in the oaks, I called the tiny pool house, right? Oh yeah, sure. So I probably showed that house at least a hundred times and over the course of at least a year, and I knew everything about that house inside the house.

Matthew Maschler:

It was four years ago, let’s say.

Staci Garcia:

Yeah, it was before all of this. And it was a hard sell only because the pool was so tiny. It

Matthew Maschler:

Had a gorgeous, gorgeous lake view. But the pool was a bathtub.

Staci Garcia:

Yes. So if there was no pool there, there wouldn’t have been an issue. You could walk to the enormous recreational

Matthew Maschler:

Club pools, the club pool that the oaks is very nice, has cabanas, tennis courts, awesome,

Staci Garcia:

Walkable on the next street.

Matthew Maschler:

Sometimes I think of the pool as art. It’s a visual from the house. You look out, you see the beautiful pool. It’s not necessarily, you definitely can’t swim laps.

Staci Garcia:

It’s real. No. And if it was a hot tub, let’s just say solo hot tub in the ground, which, or some people do just the splash thing or just a pool that’s super shallow that you can basically put your chair in. I think that would’ve made it into something with more of a purpose. But having a pool that’s a little bit larger than a hot tub was a detriment to the house. So that house now, I mean, I feel like those people really, really wanted to sell their house really, really went out forever. And now if their house went up for sale, they get twice the amount that they were asking.

Matthew Maschler:

But the house that they bought, I sold ’em the house that they bought and they had, because they’d sold it before the runup in the Oaks, the house that they bought, they bought before the runup, so they equal out. Yeah, I mean, it was actually a very, very long closing because they had a lot of work to do for, I don’t remember all the reasons. It was a seven or eight month closing. It actually made a bad comp because when it closed that closed price, everybody’s like, oh my goodness, it closed for that price if I would buy that firm. It was like, well, if you look at the history, it was under contract seven months ago. So when it finally closed, they definitely made money in the seven months from contract to closing. So yeah, they may have lost, they didn’t lose, right? They sold one house at market, they bought another house at market, and the market was not, they made the capital appreciation in the replacement house.

Luckily, they always say, I know from personal experience when you want to buy, it’s a seller’s market and you want to sell, it’s a buyer’s market because that’s an interesting thing about real estate. As much as it’s an investment, it’s a need. It’s a basic human need. People and people need to buy and sell real estate, not for investment reasons, but for lifestyle reasons. Their family’s growing or they’re moving. You sell a stock because for investment reasons only. But if you need to sell your house because you’ve got a new job and it’s a hundred miles away, you need to sell your house and move. And that’s not always an investment reason. It’s not always the best time to sell your house. So a lot of people, the people that got really lucky in this market were the ones that had contracts on new construction communities and then obviously had to wait the year and then all of a sudden they had a contract price on the house that they bought while the house that they were in continued to appreciate and value.

But we got on this because we were talking about the podcast Palooza last night, and it was a lot of fun. There was about, I’d say about a hundred people in the restaurant at the beer garden. And like I said, eight podcasters. One of the podcasters was the mayor of Palm Beach County. There were some relationship advice podcasts. So if you want to check that out over at the Matthew Mania podcast, I’m going to have to listen to it to today. I need to decide if I’m going to post it. I had no idea what I was going to talk about. And when I got off the stage, I had no memory of what I said.

Staci Garcia:

Sometimes that happens here.

Matthew Maschler:

Yeah, I can do a podcast and talk for half an hour about a subject. And I say, what did I say? But it was interesting to hear those facts about Raton 5 billion in, I think it was 7,000 transactions.

Staci Garcia:

I did hear, she said that the median age of people moving here was 49, which I feel right on the median age

Matthew Maschler:

That was that a real estate podcast or a relationship podcast

Staci Garcia:

That was real estate.

Matthew Maschler:

So they asked, how many people are here are between 48 and 50? I thought it was a very, very small range. And I’m 49, so I’m like, why I fit that range. So that was interesting, and I know it’s signature, and we sold a billion or 2 billion last year. Now that was statewide, not in the city of Boca, but I would imagine the majority was in the city of Boca. So I’m curious what percentage of sales in Boca were done by the signature real estate companies, which I do not own. It’s owned by Ben Schacker and his partners. I am a broker with my own sub brokerage firm of agents at Signature Real Estate Finder. It’s part of signature real estate companies. They had a fantastic year. Interestingly enough, it’s a lot of lower price points. Not that that’s good or bad, but it’s a lot of transactions are what they call workforce people with jobs not on the high end where people, what do they do? Well,

Staci Garcia:

If you can imagine, I think it was one year somebody that won the award got, I want to say it was Kings Point. Did they have 365 transactions in one year?

Matthew Maschler:

I think so. It averaged out. No, it was Bob in Century Village. It blows my mind. He probably did 400 transactions in a year.

Staci Garcia:

Yeah, it blows my mind. Every single day, property sold. And then I think that is so much work. And yes, my mom used to say it’s the same amount of work for a really small property with a

Matthew Maschler:

300,000 house, 3 million house, same amount of,

Staci Garcia:

And so there’s some people that are pretty snobby about that, and they won’t take a, and customers know that. I remember being your customer, and I said to you, I have a listing was my mom’s, I don’t know. I want to rent it. And you said, there is no place that I will not do a listing for no matter the price. I’m like, I’d like to rent it for like 800 a month for a client. And you were like 800 a month. That’s fine. I could do 800 a month to $8 million. I was the low end, I was the

Matthew Maschler:

Lowest. That was the year I rented something in. I rented out a house for 800 a month and sold a house for $8 million. That was my range. And it’s weird because a lot of people say to me, oh, Matt, I would’ve sold with you or bought from you, but the house was only $500,000. I’m like, only 500,000. 500,000 is a lot of money. Only $500,000.

Staci Garcia:

I just had a guy from my neighborhood is great for talking to people. There’s no guard gate. And so I told you people just walk up to my house and talk real estate. So the guy walked up and said, do you have a card? Because the truck was outside. I’m driving. The truck says signature on it. So he came up and he said, do you have a card? I want to call you. I want to get a place for my son and his girlfriend, and their price range is $175,000. I was like, oh, okay. And he apologized for the price point, and I said, you don’t have to apologize. There’s property out there if they want to do some work on it, or if they’re over 55 or if they don’t mind living out of the way, or even north of here or south of here. So I don’t apologize because of that.

Matthew Maschler:

So 10 years ago, I knew where someone could buy a three bedroom townhouse for $175,000 today. I don’t know if someone has No,

Staci Garcia:

I don’t think in Boca, no, but there’s certainly places to purchase. I see things and I think about would this be a good investment property at $175,000? But it’s also like a one right next to FAU. And then I think how much could they get for rent? Of course, it’s going to get good money because someone has to live there. It’s so close to FAU. There’s no campus housing. Well, there’s a shortage of campus housing,

Matthew Maschler:

So it’s going to be a problem ultimately when you have all these businesses that are relocating to South Florida in the Boca area where people are going to live in the northern part of the counties, A lot of businesses are relocating into Jupiter and Palm Beach Gardens area where there is workforce housing. But it may limit some of the opportunities because as Boca grows, where are not necessarily the FAU students, but where are the administrators, and maybe not the high-end, high-end, but the general employees, all the employees at the hospitals and the schools, they have to live somewhere. So addressing those housing needs, I really think when they built the bridges and Seven Bridges, I was talking to someone about Lotus and how that was originally when it came to market, it was under a million dollars. So it was 500,000 to 800,000. There are three bedrooms, and I think a lot of that was meant for people who need a place to live, people who have jobs at companies that we have a DT in town, we have Office Depot in town, and that was even

Staci Garcia:

Cities. We have four police officers living in my neighborhood that are not Boca Police. So I have plantation police living in my neighborhood. I love that we have law enforcement in my neighborhood, and I love that our property values have gone up so that they’ve made money. Originally, we were the affordable housing. And so if you drive down St. Andrew’s all along Strathmore, Boca Madera, these were the places where people could afford who had city jobs. So there’s a lot of police officers living in those houses. Even if you get to colon aid and lakes up there towards Summa, those were the affordable housing. And then you hit broken sound,

Matthew Maschler:

Right? So for a lot of those people, it’s the next step up. You have to go another 35 minutes. North West, the city of Westlake, which is a relatively new city that was being built, and it has, I think they built 8,000 houses and they put in roads and schools and whatnot, and they actually formed it as a municipality. It’s the newest city in Florida. And there you can start buying homes in the three hundreds and four hundreds. You have Westlake, which is, I think it’s the same area that used to be called the Acreage, although the acreage might be a little bit north of Westlake. And then on the other side, in Palm Beach, garden side, you have Avenir, which is new construction, but it’s also very, very far west. It’s far from the ocean for people. But the Avenir communities, which again, when they first started marketing them, they were 300, 400, 500,000.

Now they’re 800,000 million multimillion dollar properties. So we have this growth. So there’s still options, but there’s just my neighborhood where I live, there’s just no houses for sale. And it’s an interesting Phenomen phenomenon and when we’ll see how it plays out. You had record sales, right? If 2021 sold 5 billion, but then there’s no inventory, what’s going to happen for 2022 and going forward? Because I think anyone who wanted to sell did they did sell and try to capture that appreciation. So what’s left? So part of my message out there is if you do live in Florida and you are looking to sell your property now, I do think now would be a good time and we don’t know what the future will bring. And if you want to sell your property now, it would be a good time and $800 or $8 million or 800,000 or 80,000 or anything, any number with an aid in it or any other number.

We do want listings. We need listings. We need things to sell. So that’s the message out there. But don’t be discouraged if you are looking to buy, certainly, let’s discuss it. I have friends and family that I’ve been talking to that are looking in central Florida or the west coast of Florida, and there’s a lot of great options. It just really starts with what are you looking for and what’s the fantasy, what’s the dream? What are you trying to want? And if you do want beachfront, it can be affordable, even if it’s not in Palm Beach or Broward County, or if you have plenty of money, there’s options too. Now

Staci Garcia:

You’re minding the land. There’s a lot of, on the hot sheet, I stare at the hot sheet. It’s a TV show. There’s an option for property, like an investment property or just land. So I look at that. Some of them under regular real estate will be you’re buying the property, not the house. You’re basically going to knock the house down. And I just saw one in East Boca right here next to the city, city hall. It was $700,000 for a un historical house. And it’s a wood frame vintage, like original. It’s a yellow house right next to city hall. It was $700,000. And then they marked it down to $400,000. They marked it down by $300,000. That stuff hits me in the radar. I’m like, whoa, why? The price change? And usually when someone drops the price, they don’t drop it by $300,000. So the explanation of the price change was we would like some competitive offers, and then it gives you a deadline and says, bring us some decent offers. We’re serious. And I feel like any person that buys that property is either going to knock it down or it could be a historical building that someone could preserve or they could knock it down and turn it into something else. It’s a whole street, a whole city block, basically. But it’s not. And when they build the train station, it’s walkable, right? They could knock it down and build a whole supermarket.

Matthew Maschler:

Oh, you know what they’re planning on knocking down what you ever been to? Two cheese pizza,

Staci Garcia:

Two cheese going down? Yeah. Oh, really?

Matthew Maschler:

They’re taking that whole building down and it’s constant development. The people that built Tower 1 55, and they did great with Tower 1 55, they’re going to be putting up, I think it’s three buildings, apartments, retail, and office, because there’s been no new office space in Boca for the longest time. So they’re putting in some class, a modern office building, and I was talking with them about the plans recently, and they’re putting in for the garage because parking is at such a premium. They’re putting in, it’s almost like a vending machine. So the car pulls up and it examines the car. You put in your code and you get out and it just lifts the car up and puts it away and nobody drives it. One

Staci Garcia:

Of those storage places,

Matthew Maschler:

Like a storage place. Yeah. That’s cool. So they’re going to have 360 spots that are automated that it looks sounded really, really cool. I think they’re going to put Tucci in the new building once it’s up. That’s what they said, everybody. The first question,

Staci Garcia:

Where’s Tucci going to go? Yeah, what

Matthew Maschler:

Happened to Tucci? Whatcha going to do with Tucci?

Staci Garcia:

My kids used to play soccer behind Tucci when we had events because I brought them with me just so they could eat pizza for free and hang out. So

Matthew Maschler:

It sounded very exciting. But I always think if I had office space parking, and I’m super lazy, so I’d want to make sure that the parking was near the office if I had to bring things in back and forth. And I’m thinking to myself, do I want a computer? I want to be able to park and get there easily. That parking sounds cool, but is it a fan in the ass? That

Staci Garcia:

Whole section over there. It was supposed to be walkable, right? It’s supposed to be walkable from exactly where we’re sitting to

Matthew Maschler:

Pink Plaza. We’re in the secret recording studio in Royal Palm Plaza, the Pink

Staci Garcia:

Plaza in the back cave all the way up to Meisner Park. It’s supposed to be completely walkable, but what happens is right in the middle of it, it’s not walkable.

Matthew Maschler:

They built these big apartment buildings.

Staci Garcia:

And I do feel every single time I come to this plaza on, this is a side note, I park in a different section of this plaza. I never know where I park. I am approaching the age of I should put a tennis ball on my car because I’m not sure where I

Matthew Maschler:

Park or just always park in the same spot. I

Staci Garcia:

Can’t because every time I enter the, I come from a different spot. I enter, I come down Meisner or I’ll come across from Federal or I’ll come Dixie and I’ll come shoot straight across. Every single time I pull in, I’m like, okay, where am I now? And I’ll park and I’ll try to remember I’m in front of something and then when I walk out, I’m like, now where do I go to get my car? But it’s such a great plaza, it’s just, it’s great.

Matthew Maschler:

Crazy. I think the Plaza has its own podcast,

Staci Garcia:

Really?

Matthew Maschler:

I think they do a podcast just for Royal Po Plaza here. Oh, that’s cool. But we’ve been doing this for about four or five months, and I was also confused and parking in a different spot and trying to figure out where this location was, and I finally got it down. I always park in the same spot I saw on the way in. I saw a spot. It was a little different than normal. I’m like, should I go there? I’m like, no, just go to your regular

Staci Garcia:

Spot. I keep changing every week. I do know where the good spot is. I just don’t approach the plaza from that way. But if this was a walkable plaza that connected over to where just Baked is and where Tucci is on the other side.

Matthew Maschler:

I parked somewhere stupid last night for Beer Garden and I should have just parked. I should have just parked my regular spot.

Staci Garcia:

That’s funny. Yeah, I always, as I walk through here, I think I see all the statues and stuff, and I think they’re all looking for their car. That’s how all long they’ve been standing here trying to figure out where they parked.

Matthew Maschler:

Do you know about the cigar bar in this plaza? No. So it’s interesting. It used to be called Ash, but they renamed it Strikes.

Staci Garcia:

That’s on this side, right?

Matthew Maschler:

Yeah. You know the bowling alley? Yeah. It was called Strikes, right? The owner of the bowling alley sold the bowling alley. It’s now Bolero on Military Trail, right? Yeah, it was Don Carter originally. So anyway, so the guy that owned the bowling alley that sold it, bought the cigar bar here, and he renamed it strikes, I guess striking a match. Oh, gotcha. But he was the guy from the bowling alley. And so if you’re looking for him, that’s where he is now hanging out and smoking cigars.

Staci Garcia:

Probably what he was doing before, except that every once in a while they would tell him that Elaine needed help.

Matthew Maschler:

He would be at the bowling alley. I mean, it’s constant maintenance. He’d be out there and he’d be resetting the pins and the pin setting machines and stuff like that. He was really hands-on.

Staci Garcia:

Oh, I know. You should have seen him during, when all the high schools get together in bowl, because all the high schools are there at one time every single week. It’s total chaos because more than one lane needs help. And all of the kids are there. Not that they’re time, but there’s a time they have certain amount of time to practice and a certain amount of time to play.

Matthew Maschler:

Is it varsity?

Staci Garcia:

Well, it is a varsity sport. If you do it two years in a row, it’s a varsity sport.

Matthew Maschler:

And your son plays for what school?

Staci Garcia:

Spanish River.

Matthew Maschler:

Spanish River, bowling.

Staci Garcia:

Nice. Yeah, it was really cool. I thought it was cool at first because you’re inside and the air conditioned, and that’s a definite plus on the mom’s side, because I have stadium seats from my son playing football, my other son, and it’s hot or buggy. And that sort of thing is you have to lug your stadium, so your drink. But the other part is when you walk in, I mean, seriously, you could have a drink and watch your kid bowl, have a couple drinks or a pitcher, and everybody that’s a parent of a bowler, it’s kind of the same kind of person. No one’s going to be like, you can’t drink here. This is the

Matthew Maschler:

Players don’t drink.

Staci Garcia:

No, the players aren’t drinking. But the people that come to watch their kids bowl are bowlers. And bowlers are fun. They happen to be fun people. So at the state competition, because my son made it to the state competition, they actually bring ladders and they stand behind the players. And since there’s really no room to watch, they climb up on ladders and watch the kids above them, which I’d never seen before.

Matthew Maschler:

That is so cool.

Staci Garcia:

They stand on ladders and watch their kids. I couldn’t stand on the ladder that long. I’d fall. I

Matthew Maschler:

Won’t go up in the

Staci Garcia:

Ladder. No, it was insane though. But when I saw people coming in the bowling alley with ladders, I’m like, wow, did they have to fix something? Their parents, parents with special ladder ladders, parents with ladders. I’m like, what are they bringing in ladders? And then other moms told me they sit on the top of the ladder to watch their kids bowl. And I’m like, why? And then I realized why? It’s because there’s nowhere to sit and you’re standing and watching. And so they want to be above the people that are standing. So it’s pretty crazy for that to happen. There’s also, I’m trying to think. Bowling culture, they have a lot of different, I dunno, just different. During a certain period of practice, you can drink parents and then it stops. And then when the tournament begins, no one can drink at all. So it’s like power drinking before the tournament starts.

Matthew Maschler:

The parents can’t drink during the tournament,

Staci Garcia:

But you can drink during the practice.

Matthew Maschler:

Are there other bowlers in the bowling alley?

Staci Garcia:

Not during the state competition. They take over a huge bowling alley at UCF and it’s a humongous bowling alley and there’s a lot going on. And there’s kids everywhere. The kids have more than one bag of bowling balls. My son has five bowling balls and they’re lugging them around. There’s bowling balls everywhere. Plus they get filled, they fill the bowling ball with cement. They have to get certified. So it strikes, or for example, a bolero, they take your bowling ball away from you. They fill it and then they certify it and basically lock your bowling bag and give it back to you. When you get to, they take your bowling balls, get back to you when you get

Matthew Maschler:

There. I’m picturing the Karate Kid All Valley tournament with that serious level of bowlers.

Staci Garcia:

It’s so insane. I mean, I was so blown away by it because I had never been at this level, a state level of tournament and bowling. It would be darts for me. And so it’s kind like a fun thing that you brought your kids to do when they were little so that they could have a birthday party or something. That’s what my son’s competing in something fun. But until I saw the level of the parent and then I was like, oh, people had different shoes. The bowling shoes of course, different shoes for different, I got to change my shoes for a different lane. Some lanes are oily and then depending on the lane cleaner, what time it goes by. And whether they get a lane that’s too oily, they have to switch balls. It’s insane. The theory behind it, it is just like the movie of,

Matthew Maschler:

Have you ever seen a bowling alley or a lane in a house?

Staci Garcia:

Yes. And this is funny. There’s a house on Hillsborough Mile that has an underground tunnel that goes, it’s two houses. It’s one house with a guest house, and there’s a really long tunnel underneath the ground that you’d never know about unless you’re right to the beach. No, it goes parallel to the beach, to the other house

Underground. It’s really long. And in there is, it’s like a bowling alley. It’s like straight shot in there against the wall is this weird humming noise. That was the first thing I noticed. And it’s like a weird tunnel. It’s kind of like the pressure video. Really, really long and wait. And I said, what’s going on in here? And there is a humongous aquarium in the kitchen, bigger than a car. And they filmed a video in it, not in it, but with it. And they put a car in the pool and all kinds of crazy stuff. But the filter for the aquarium, it’s underground and all the

Matthew Maschler:

Pool and all the aquarium equipment, the

Staci Garcia:

Pumps and everything. So it’s all in a row and behind the closet. And it’s down there where

Matthew Maschler:

You, and they have a bowling alley undergrad. That is cool. I had shown a house in Stone Creek Ranch. I sold a lot of the vacant lots there and sold a lot of houses there. And Stone Creek Ranch, you can go to Stone Creek ranch.com to check out the community. And there was a house that was built and it had a bowling alley. It had this most amazing game room with a two-lane, bowling alley, racketball court, and a golf simulator and a home theater and everything like that. And it was really, really spectacular. And I had brought someone in to see the house. I had two or three customers that I really thought should buy the house and ended up, none of my customer didn’t buy it. And they sold it. And it was right before the pandemic. If it was on sale in this market today, oh my God, it’d be snatched up for so much more money. But then also, and I think it was during the pandemic the first summer, it was around June when school let out, we had rented an Airbnb in Orlando and I let each of the kids bring some friends and it had a bowling alley.

Staci Garcia:

Yeah, that’s

Matthew Maschler:

Cool. And the whole basement was set up as looked like a 1950s look. Ice cream parlor, bowling alley, game room and stuff like that. So we had fun bowling. So two houses that I’d seen recently that had bowling alleys, which I think is nice. I think it’s fun.

Staci Garcia:

I like the mini pin one. Duck pin bowling.

Matthew Maschler:

The duck pin like they did in Maryland.

Staci Garcia:

That might be, yeah. Remember in Maryland in the student union at the bottom there was the, well

Matthew Maschler:

Student union was regulation regulation

Staci Garcia:

Ing. Okay. Because they competed at the

Matthew Maschler:

Bottom. Stacey and I went to the same college, university of Maryland College

Staci Garcia:

Clark. So at the bottom of the student union was their bowling alley. I took bowling, I thought I went to see the bowling down there. I got

Matthew Maschler:

An A,

Staci Garcia:

I think

Matthew Maschler:

Kinesiology 3 29.

Staci Garcia:

I took four aerobics classes and I got an A too. And the funny thing was that they even have that. And as a freshman, my major wasn’t kinesiology, but I

Matthew Maschler:

Did not major in kinesiology.

Staci Garcia:

But the bowling alley at the bottom I thought was super cool when I went to see, because you picked your classes and it said the classes in the student union. And I was like, what class could possibly be here? Almost. The only thing I could think of was basic like farming because of the co-op food. It was there. I

Matthew Maschler:

Don’t think they farmed for

Staci Garcia:

The co-op. I know, but I thought it was weird because their food was free and healthy, smelly. It was the opposite of what I, and I was upstairs at Roy Rogers. Roy Rogers. But yeah, I thought it was super cool that the bowling alley was there and a movie theater.

Matthew Maschler:

The Hof. Yep. Hoff movie theater. I took classes there. I took government politics classes, like Vietnam War through film. And I worked at the Hof movie theater one summer. You did? Yeah. Making popcorn and sound tickets.

Staci Garcia:

That’s funny. I saw a clockwork orange there. Oh yeah, that’s great. Creepy. Yep. But yeah, the bowling alley thing, I even asked my son because originally he applied to work at Bolero, but you had to be 18 to work at there with the pins, be a pin setter or whatever. Which is funny too, because if you’re on the bowling team and you bowl constantly, which they do, and they’re there almost every day

Matthew Maschler:

Of the week. If you’re a sophomore or junior in high school and you’re a varsity bowler, 16, 17 years old, why not work at the bowling alley? That would seem to make sense.

Staci Garcia:

I applied with him and then we got a thing that said he had to be 18. My one whole year younger than the grade. And one of my sons is one whole year older, even now. But my younger son was the one that wanted to work at Bolero. And when we were told they had to be 18 now, he just turned 17 and he’s a senior. And I was like, oh, I’m sorry, sorry. And he goes, this isn’t the job that I wanted. When I graduated. I was like, I should hope not, but I wanted you to work there. I wanted him to work there. He was there every single

Matthew Maschler:

Day. And you’re there anyway and you can learn.

Staci Garcia:

Yeah. And it’s so cool to learn how the backend works, all of that, all of a sudden the ball pops up. It’s not just like that, right? They take out the whole floor. Oh, that was another thing. When bowling stops, the clock stops. You know what I mean? It’s very official. So they have to stop. They pick up a piece of the floor to see where the ball went. It’s not just like they open up the top and they look. It was very, very official. And then they have to balance out everything again and start over. I forget where I was. I was just with my son and we were watching, oh, that’s when we went for a burger on Los List. And where was our first excursion out? And we were watching the tv. It was competitive tag. This has nothing to do with the real estate at all, but it was absolutely the coolest thing ever. And then I asked my son, what sport is this? And he said, it’s tag. So now tag is a sport. Who wouldn’t play tag? They were playing

Matthew Maschler:

Tag in high school.

Staci Garcia:

No, it was competitive. Professional tag.

Matthew Maschler:

Professional tag.

Staci Garcia:

Yeah.

Matthew Maschler:

That seems

Staci Garcia:

Strange. I know. But it was like hardcore. It was the office, but it was over and under bars and around angles and ramps and all of that. But it was tag. So I asked my son, I’m like, oh my God, what’d you do that? He goes, hell yeah. Looks super fun. It does look fun. It’s just the two of you when you’re running after each other and you’re getting paid for it and they have sponsors. And to me it was originally how I felt about skateboarding, but now it’s how I feel about bowling and now it’s how I feel about tag. Alright. Yeah, it’s very strange. But at the same time, super cool. People all now have tag rooms.

Matthew Maschler:

It beats having to make something or work in a factory, I guess.

Staci Garcia:

Well, when you were young and you played Steal the Bacon or you played a game, I don’t know, on your street, hide and seek or whatever the game was dodgeball.

Matthew Maschler:

What were you saying about tag rooms?

Staci Garcia:

Yeah, there’s tag, professional tag. And now there would be, I would assume that they’re going to incorporate tag into pickleball has been incorporated into communities. So there was never a pickleball before there was racketball. Now there’s going to be pickleball or there is already here. And soon there would be tag, a place where you could play tag, professional tag.

Matthew Maschler:

Do you think that there’s, so we have to open up a tag course on the Roger Circle. We have to open up a tag. Boca Raton tag

Staci Garcia:

Boca tag.com. Now we do buy that first. That is, yeah. Yeah. It was super cool to watch. I was shocked that it was a sport, which I’m sometimes shocked about normally. I seriously was shocked that bowling was a sport. I didn’t know that bowling was a sport, a real one. I know that people bowl just like

Matthew Maschler:

Dart, but it’s always been on television. I remember being

Staci Garcia:

On television since I was a kid. I thought of it more as funny and not professional.

Matthew Maschler:

It’s not funny. I used to watch balling. I as a kid, they were serious.

Staci Garcia:

Oh, I know. And when my son got a straight perfect game, he bowl us Boulder 300. Nice. When that happened, it wasn’t funny. I was crying.

Matthew Maschler:

That’s very special.

Staci Garcia:

That’s very special. Every single person was there, was interviewed by the news. It’s going to be in the yearbook, all of that stuff. But I know it’s not funny now, but at the time I still was the person that was like, I can put wine in a thermos and drink while my son’s playing bowling. It’s still to me is I tell people who have younger kids, when your kid gets to high school, they should go try out for bowling. Even though it sounds silly, it’s the best thing to do as parents.

Matthew Maschler:

I think the best sport is whatever the kid wants, but exposing them to a lot of different, the parents’ job is to expose them to all the different sports.

Staci Garcia:

But it’s hard as a parent to sit outside in the summer for soccer or, I mean, I’ve gone through a lot of sports. Some of them are super expensive. We tried ice hockey

Matthew Maschler:

Hockey

Staci Garcia:

And it’s super expensive and it’s tough and the equipment’s expensive and you got to go pay for the ice and all of that. But some of them are a little bit harder than others. I do it as a parent of three boys. I do it as a either, is it financially a doable thing? Is the time worth it like that? Do they enjoy doing It is low on my list. I have to start out from the parent angle of can I actually sit outside for three hours? I got burned as you could get. Watching three kids, three games, three hours soccer outside the YMCA. I was like, yeah, you guys hate soccer now we’re switching new sport and new season, different game. And that’s when they started basketball inside and basketball was way better.

Matthew Maschler:

And it’s very interesting because so many professional athletes live in our community in Boca Raton. So they’ll open up academies. Mo Vaughn has his baseball academy here in town. And back in the day, Bucky Dent had his baseball academy in town, but Bucky had sold it. But when my son was little, he played in the Bucky Dent Academy in Delray Beach. And it was a real serious facility because you’d even have high school kids coming from all over the country that would train at the Bucky training facility. He made it a residential portion for the high school kids. And then they would take classes with some of the local schools, but then on the younger level, you could play playing with buggy Denton. It was really cool to meet Buggy Den with my son and he had a Red Sox player, Jared LA or something like that, came in and talked to the kids. But I know MoveOn has his clinic now and there’s lots of different training facilities, tennis, a lot of tennis in our community and people who move here to Boca to play golf or to play tennis with the kids so that they could play in high school and then compete on the college level and beyond. So it’s another thing that our community really has going for it here in Florida. I don’t know of any tech facilities

Staci Garcia:

Just yet. No. But tech could be coming.

Matthew Maschler:

It could be.

Staci Garcia:

It’s nice to have very proactive community where let’s say now pickleball part of the,

Matthew Maschler:

Well pickleball has been really sweeping through the communities and communities have been converting the tennis courts to pickleball. If you don’t know, it’s a quarter of the size of a regular tennis court. So it’s much bigger than ping pong, but smaller than tennis. And it’s become very, very popular in Delray Beach. They’re having the pickleball opens and a lot of my friends are playing it. I’m nervous. I know. I’m going to break something. I just brain

Staci Garcia:

Something when you play pickleball. Oh yeah. One of my good friends is, I just won the title last year.

Matthew Maschler:

Pickleball title.

Staci Garcia:

Yeah. Lee Rosenthal was my neighbor in Fairfield. Super cool guy. And one of my friends texted me a picture of him on the cover and I was like, oh my God. He was really actually a tennis pro and flipped over to pickleball and now he’s head of the world something. A league.

Matthew Maschler:

That’s pretty cool. Yeah, there was a squash instructor that I know that opened up a facility in Delray and he’s also, he’s teaching squash and pickleball. And I’m like, oh, these two things couldn’t be more different.

Staci Garcia:

I haven’t played either, but if badminton is a real sport,

Matthew Maschler:

Well, badminton is a real sport. It’s in the Olympics.

Staci Garcia:

Yeah. That’s pretty crazy.

Matthew Maschler:

People play that very, very competitively. It’s not like the 4th of July barbecue thing that you buy at the toy store.

Staci Garcia:

But what I think is cool is that sometimes the budget here is unlimited. So you could have a house with, I mean we’ve seen it of course, a house that comes with a pickleball

Matthew Maschler:

Quarry. We currently have one listed in seven bridges and seven bridges recently put in a Starbucks products. So they have a coffee shop with all Starbucks products. So if you are listening to this and you want to move to the area Boker del Rey and you like Starbucks and pickleball, I have the perfect place for you.

Staci Garcia:

You don’t have to leave your backyard to play pickleball or you can switch it into a basketball court.

Matthew Maschler:

Yeah, yeah. I mean it’s not a full length basketball court, but you could, there’s plenty of things to do in the sport court. And then the community has tennis and basketball and Starbucks did I mention, so yeah, so come down, check out seven bridges. I think GL is going to, in the next few days, announce their next community. So we’re waiting with a bated breath to hear what comes next in the new construction area.

Staci Garcia:

You know what I want in a new community? What’s

Matthew Maschler:

That?

Staci Garcia:

The lazy river. The Lazy river. My theory on everything would be to have the lazy river go around all the communities.

Matthew Maschler:

Oh, like a huge lazy river.

Staci Garcia:

That’s not happening. Yes, but it would be perfect. So all the communities, just like they have a path that goes and people walk on it, there would be a lazy river. And so from your little subsection, you’d jump into the lazy river with your own, you could even have your own tube or whatever and the ashler tube. And then you can get out at any one of the sub communities and it goes through and there’s waterfalls and all of that.

Matthew Maschler:

Well, that would be spectacular.

Staci Garcia:

I think it’s a definite

Matthew Maschler:

South. And you’d have to have bridges that go over them for the roads, of

Staci Garcia:

Course. Well, there was a place I stayed at in one of the islands that had all of the townhouses were connected with the same backyard water. So each backyard had a small pool, but it wasn’t really a small pool. It was connected to all the other pools. And you could just get in it and walk through basically everybody else’s backyard pool and then connect to the lazy river. And you didn’t need a float to use it and you could just go around the resort. So this is my theory on doing it is make it in a bigger scale and don’t include the house backyard. I really wouldn’t want someone floating through my backyard. So I want the Lazy River to be separate. There is the resort that’s in Orlando. Can’t think of the name of it, but it’s all water park kind of thing. It’s got water park right next to it near a universal,

Matthew Maschler:

The Margaritaville. No, that’s not, that’s just

Staci Garcia:

Me. I don’t know what. Anyway, that’s my theory on the next big thing.

Matthew Maschler:

So reach out to me on Twitter or Instagram, Matthew Ashler or on Facebook, the Matthew Ashler Real Estate Finder podcast and let us know what amenity you dream of in a house. Is it a bowling alley, a pickleball court, a Starbucks, a lazy river. That house that Airbnb in Orlando that I rented that’s spring. Yeah, spring early summer. That had the tennis court had a lazy river around the pool in the backyard. It was fun. It’s fun. But yeah. What other amenities? I’ve sold house with a racketball court before. I’ve seen that before. So let us know what other crazy amenities you dream of in having in your house. And that’s our show. Thank you for joining us on the Real Estate Finder podcast. Make sure you follow us or subscribe or review us on whichever podcast service you’re using, iHeart or Spotify or Stitcher or Apple Podcast. Because I’ve seen we’ve had over a thousand downloads and I’m ranked. This podcast is ranked in the top 10% of all podcasts on these services. I have to look into the analytics a little bit more, but we’re very excited to see the feedback and the attention we’re getting. And if you’re looking to buy or sell a house, please reach out to realestate finder.com.

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